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PostSubject: Final Tribal Council   Final Tribal Council I_icon_minitimeSat 13 Mar - 1:35:28

Final Tribal Council


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Congratulations Indiana Jones, Tweety Bird & Wendy Christensen, you are the final 3. The three of you dominated the season all in your own ways. Now it's time to put all that hard work into writing & convince the jury that you deserve to win.


Indiana Jones, Tweety Bird & Wendy Christensen will post their opening statements and then the jury can start asking questions and comments. Until then, DO NOT ADDRESS THEM.




The Jury

Beth Harmon
Cara Maria Sorbello
Gale Weathers
Jack Black
Lafayette Reynolds
Lindsey Morgan
Lucifer Morningstar
Marceline Abadeer
Peppa Pig

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PostSubject: Re: Final Tribal Council   Final Tribal Council I_icon_minitimeSat 13 Mar - 3:24:07

Hey, jurors! I can only imagine how you're feeling at this moment, but allow me to explain my game, from start to finish to shed some light on how I made it here:

Pre-merge: Tribes 

Desi Williams + Russell Hantz evicted: 

  • With there being tribes, I knew the most I could do without playing my hand early on was to contribute in the challenges and for getting supplies for my tribe all while building connections. In doing this within the Marvel tribe, I was able to build rapport with him tribe members while securing back-to-back tribe wins; these wins strengthened our bonds. DC lost two members, and an alliance of OG DC members was formed (Benevolent Sinners) with 4 Marvel members (Gale, Issa, Peppa, and Spongebob) and 6 DC members (Beth, Cara, Indiana, Lucifer, and Tweety). This ensured that should we actually make it to Final 10, DC members would hold a majority.
  • I created individual rooms with Lucifer, Wendy, Tweety, and Jack to build that support within my tribe so that if we landed on the same tribe in a swap, we would work together not because we had to but because we wanted to. I also created a room with Gale as she was the one person from the Marvel tribe I trusted the most.  

Marcellus + Bonnie evicted:

  • This was a simple round. I continued my strategy of just contributing to challenges and gathering supplies for my tribe. It was was agreed upon by both losing tribes to get rid of the inactive person. 

Issa Rae evicted:

  • When my tribe, DC, lost, we attributed it to Nevel failing to appear. Though a handful of us suspected he was working with the other tribe, one with majority OG Marvel members, in an attempt to get one of us out. With this in mind, we decided to get rid of Issa Rae. This was the first of many blindsides. 

Nevel and Captain American evicted:

  • Seeing that my two allies Wendy and Marceline were in the minority on that side, I spoke with Gale and she presumably voted to send Nevel packing. No knowledge on Captain America being evicted, though it was likely for being inactive.

Spongebob evicted:

  • This was one that I did not need happening. I genuinely wanted to work with Spongebob, and Jack and I made a room with him (Three Amigos) that never went anywhere. Why? I threw Lindsey's name out there as a suggestion and he runs and tells her. Word gets back to me from Jack himself and together the two of us get four other votes against the Sponge and send him packing. 



Merge: Multiverse 

Lindsey evicted:

  • Lindsey and I had never really had any one-on-one conversations, and any that I tried seemed stale and awkward. Working with her was not going to be possible, and since I had mentioned her name to Spongebob, I was on her radar. Due to a tip from Jack, I knew Lindsey wanted me out, so the Jeff Varner club forms and takes her out. Strictly game move, nothing person. 

Beth evicted:

  • This is one of the few votes wherein I was unaware she was the target. In the Jeff Varner Club, we thought the target had been Peppa due to her performing well in endurance. As the lines had already been drawn, she was the most threatening on the other side. Beth, you were never meant to go home, and I believe we had someone in our alliance flip, which began the decline of the Jeff Varner Club. I still have good rapport with each member, as I had not suspected one particular person of flipping. 

Jack evicted:

  • Another one that hurt, though it seemed he had made peace with leaving. I attribute him leaving by the other side and "Lafayette's List" (more on this later). I believe had I not won that Immunity Challenge with Peppa that I'd be in Jack's position, so you could argue that luck paired me with the only person who had responded to the "Get to know me segment." You could argue my good attention to detail, what have you. This vote is a bit blurry, as it was never confirmed who voted with who, and this furthered the decline of Jeff Varner Club. Realizing this I knew I was in danger of being picked off next. 
  • This is when Lafayette's list comes in. Prior to jack leaving, Lucifer presents the Jeff Varner Club the list, wherein the order to be pecked off was Lucifer, me, Marceline, etc. This is also where Lucifer began to get called out by half the house; no bueno for me, so I worked with Wendy, Marceline, and and Lucifer himself and we formed the Coalition

Cara evicted:

  • Another eviction I did not see happening. Cara was in a great place and was even wary of me, so I knew she had to go, I just didn't know when. "Word" gets to Cara Maria that Tweety is the vote; we knew they were at least working together, and so when Cara used the idol on Tweety, we realized we had 1)knocked out an idol but 2) left Cara completely vulnerable as we revealed her ally. The Coalition votes against Peppa, and Peppa's side with Lafayette, Tweety, and Gale voted against Lucifer. I had Deadpool's Explosives in my possession  which I used against Cara, someone explicitly against Lucifer. The Coalition was prepared to go to rocks for Lucifer, and we did. You have to take risks in this game, so we went to rocks, Cara gets out by rocks, someone who was after me and on the opposite side
  • This eviction allowed the Coalition to gain the advantage in the votes. 

Lafayette evicted:

  • Once again, had I not won this immunity I believe I would've left this round. The Coalition agreed to go to a flash round to take the other side by surprise. Surprisingly, Marceline gets four votes rather than Lucifer, and with Wendy playing her idol, we knew if we kept strong, our entire alliance would be safe that round. So Round 2 happens and out of fear presumably, two flip, casting Lafayette, the main one against me, out.

Peppa Pig evicted:

  • This one was between Peppa and Tweety since Gale had won immunity. I had started building my rapport with Tweety, and didn't see it necessary to get rid of him just yet. Peppa leaves with 4 votes as the remaining one to choose from. I will admit, it was illogical of me to lie to her, though I was in the thought process of not needing nor wanting her to explode on me and call any sort of meeting to call me out or tell her remaining allies to target me.

Gale evicted:

  • This is where I became uneasy. I knew I trusted my alliance, but I was worried they would take Gale's and Tweety's warning about me seriously and vote me out. Thankfully, the vote is for Gale to leave. Meanwhile, Wendy, myself and Marceline had a Final 3 (Fangs, Bangs, and Wangs) in motion and this is where we considered finally cutting Lucifer as he was able to perform in endurance much better than Tweety. Boy little did we know how little that would matter, but due to the jury bias towards Lucifer, we needed him gone before it became too late.

Lucifer evicted:

  • I win my third Immunity Challenge, and it's between Tweety and Lucifer, and of course we chose to get rid of Lucifer. Not too much else to comment on this.

Marceline evicted:

  • One of the most grueling challenges I have ever had to participate in. I mean, writing a story? Spamming posts? Watching a TV show + taking notes? Refreshing for random questions? The past 24+ hours were hell and I've never wanted to quit in my life, but I knew I had to give a fighting chance. Wendy wins successfully, and it is through loyalty we evict Tweety. Unfortunately, things didn't go according to plan, and through a tied vote, Marceline loses the round and goes. 


TLDR:

  • I won Immunity Challenges when I felt I was in danger and when I didn't win I was able to socially maneuver my way out of trouble
  • I have a total of 3 Immunity Challenge wins
  • I only have a total of 2 votes to send home, attesting to my social game
  • I utilized Lafayette's List to send his allies home
  • Worked with my own allies to take out targets to both my own game and theirs
  • Played a dominant game from the start
  • Played a role in sending half the jury home and was never found out
  • Kept Lucifer, my #1 shield in this game to utilize as an ally
  • Had definite Final 3's established with nearly half the jurors (Beth, Jack, Gale, Marceline, Lucifer) and was never connected. One was me, Beth, and Jack. Another was me, Wendy, and Marceline, and another was me, Wendy and Gale. The last was me, Wendy, and Lucifer
  • Was part of a group who sent a third of the jurors home. 


I am more than happy to discuss any questions you may have for me.

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PostSubject: Re: Final Tribal Council   Final Tribal Council I_icon_minitimeSat 13 Mar - 5:05:43

Good morning, jurors! 

Let me start off by saying that I have every intention of owning up to everything that I did in this game and I am looking forward to answering all of your questions. I will be as transparent and honest as I can be, and if any of you have any bitter feelings towards me, I just ask that you hear me out because there was a reason for everything that I did in the game. If you still feel the same after the fact, I completely understand, but everything I did was strictly a game and was never personal from my end. I know that I lied to many of you, and I was aligned with many you, and a lot of the times I lied about where my votes were going, but ultimately, I felt like I did what I had to do and be a little cutthroat to get to where I am now after being blindsided, losing my number 1 ally in Beth, and being backed into a corner when Lucifer flipped on the Varner 5 and put us in the minority (more on that later). 

Pre-Jury 

  • The Jeff Varner Fan Club was made with me, Beth, Jack, Indiana, and Lucifer right before the initial tribe swap happened (why did we pick that name, you guys lmao).


  • I made the Fangs, Bangs, and Wangs alliance with me, Indiana, and Marceline when we were put into the Vigilante tribe, with me being the glue between them two


  • During the round Issa was voted out was when my conversations with Gale became a little more consistent, but still very minimal. Jack always talked highly of Gale and when Gale’s name would be thrown out, Jack would always try to divert the target off of Gale to someone else, which made me weary of how close their relationship was since she was “on the other side.” 


  • Being placed into the Marvel Tribe with Gale, Lafayette, Marceline, and Nevel was a critical point in my game because it solidified my bond with Marceline and we made a final 2 deal with each other. She wanted to go after Gale, but to me, Gale was giving me more than Nevel was so when Marceline mentioned targeting Gale to me and Lafayette, I knew that Lafayette would run it back to Gale. I was trying to work on building that bond w/ Gale while maintaining my bond w/ Marceline so I didn’t tell Gale, even though I went to Lafayette and told him that we should keep Gale instead of Nevel, and I meant that because I already didn’t trust Nevel. 

Jury

Lindsey

  • This vote was extreeeemely difficult. I made a promise to Lindsey that I ultimately was not able to keep because my alliance voted in anticipation of a power being purchased and used. I genuinely wanted to work with Lindsey because I enjoyed our conversations and she was f*cking hilarious, and I knew that she was close with Cara, someone from the other side who I was close to from the beginning. My biggest fear with telling Lindsey about her being the vote that round was that a power would be purchased and used which would have put me in the minority, and my alliance would find out that I was the one that leaked the plan and they would no longer trust me. At 6-6 at the merge, for the sake of my own game, I had to go against my word and break that promise to Lindsey. 


Beth / Jack

  • Beth was my #1 and Jack was my #2 so when Beth was voted out, I was completely blindside, but Lucifer flipping on the Varner 5 lit a fire under my ass. When the Jack vote happened, I knew that Jack was leaving no matter what so I agreed to vote Jack out in order to get into good graces with the opposing side. It was this point in the game when Indiana became my #1 because I knew that he would stay loyal to me, while still being targeted every time before me. Several people this round including Tweety were trying to get me to flush my idol, but the bond I had with Cara Maria from the beginning of the game allowed me to know where the votes were going each time, so I knew when NOT to play my idol. The several attempts of trying to flush my idol never worked because I had Cara protecting me from that side. 

  • Also, I found the idol 20 mins after getting the clue LOL, I just wanted to try to pull you guys in a closer to me so I pretended that morning Final Tribal Council 2OGgF1pi0BLtWTqw5M53xSoCLbuTQPdoD6VdnJlgCsCFshwD08Man6rbvPAlpgfBs2MJUbYWpI_hFgvhHo6OIplfg5BQl-uu5N-GIKjg0maMZrUFuwNwPLHvbifc1wNHJ-Ip4dBW Final Tribal Council BcbCFb_YzDei0jjlWPddkqduiu6ZhkP58GmhxWoJ9jPpadpQvn4B4EkSyt94J8tQcEgu3uzuSu4-E-qIK3S_sD8cRECT4f4im3PSGhmhq82OOARH58zu8_X_kElAer1VBcY2PCdU


Cara

  • Cara getting rocked out of the game was one of the worst things that happened to me in this game because she got caught in the crossfire of what I was trying to do. When I won the immunity challenge, I brought up the plan to force a tie to Indiana by using his explosives during this round instead of at final 8 when it expired because it was the only way for all of us (Me, Indiana, Marceline, Lucifer) to make it past that round without getting picked off one by one. Indiana was very hesitant on forcing the tie in fear of going to rocks, but I told him that I knew that Tweety would flip if it tied because I got confirmation from her that she WOULD NEVER go to rocks for anybody. Had Cara not used the immunity idol on Tweety that round, Tweety would have been part of the rock draw, so she would have flipped and Peppa would have gone home. Also, the reason why the idol was used on Tweety was because I thought Gale had an idol, so I told Lucifer to tell Tweety that we were voting Tweety out in hopes that Gale’s “idol” would be flushed, but I didn’t anticipate Cara using her idol on Tweety. I also pushed to Tweety the narrative that Lucifer had an idol and would use it to save himself so that Tweety would waste her shield power this round and nothing could block my idol the following round. 


Lafayette

  • At final 8, I knew something had to be done. We were 4v4 with no powers or advantages aside from my idol. I decided to form The Coalition with me, Marceline, Indiana, and Lucifer. With my idol expiring this round, I knew that I would be safe again from a rock draw if it came down to it, so I encouraged Marceline, Indiana, and Lucifer to force another tie because once again, I knew per Tweety that she would never consider going to rocks, so by forcing the tie, and sticking to our guns, we forced Tweety‘s hands to flip in order to vote Lafayette out, which is exactly what happened that round. I also got confirmation from Peppa that she wouldn’t have gone to rocks, which was why there were 2 votes that flipped to Lafayette.


Peppa & Gale

  • At Final 7 & 6,  Peppa and Gale, I know you feel like I lied to you both just to lie, but if I’m being honest, trusting Lucifer each round was a HUGE risk, and although it was one that I was willing to take, I knew that if I told you guys where the votes were going, you had a great chance of getting into Lucifer’s head, filling it with paranoia, and convincing and persuading Lucifer to flip with you guys. That's the only reason why I felt like I had to lie to you until you got voted out in order to make sure that my plans would not be spoiled. I saw the both of you as huuuuge threats to my game and I knew that getting to the end would be more difficult the longer you both stayed around. It was nothing personal, I was just doing what I thought would make my path to the end easier and I felt like both of you stood in my way of getting there. (I believe that’s also why we were paired together in that Newlywed challenge Gale, because the hosts knew what we were both capable of lmfao). 


Lucifer

  • At final 5, my Core 4 alliance with Tweety and Marceline (& Beth) planned on voting out Lucifer and Lucifer and Indiana planned on voting out Tweety. I was going to write Tweety’s name down this round because I thought she was the biggest jury threat in the end, but Indiana wanted to take the shot at Lucifer in fear of the jury voting for him out of spite. Either way, I knew that I was pretty much almost guaranteed final 3 with everyone left in the game so I went with voting Lucifer because I’ve been wanting to avenge Beth since she got blindsided. 


My Game
It was only after Lucifer flipped that I really felt the need to play a more cutthroat game to get out of the minority that we were forced into. I felt I needed to start taking a little charge to win the power struggle we were having in the game. I feel as though I played the best strategic game overall because there was never one single round in this game where I was in ACTUAL danger and potentially getting voted out. Every single round when a target would be named, no matter what side, the target never became me, and when it did, there weren’t enough numbers on board to go through with it because of the connections that I had. Indiana, Lucifer, and Marceline always were named as targets over me. Tweety was named a target over me. Across several rounds, their names were written multiple times. I feel as though I was in the driver’s seat for the majority of the second half of this game because I controlled The Coalition’s vote by having Marceline helping me convince Indiana and Lucifer to vote our way.


TLDR:

  • There has never been a time in this game where I was truly in danger or getting targeted. If my name came up, I had people protecting me from every angle.


  • The latter part of this game I was pretty much in the driver seat making the decisions through the individual bonds that I had with everyone. I was working with EVERYONE dead smack in the middle, which was why getting out Lafayette, Peppa and Gale was extremely important to my game because without them, I was aligned with everyone else left in the game


  • I was the glue between Marceline and Indiana. I was the glue between Marceline and Tweety. I was the glue between Marceline and Indiana/Lucifer, I was the glue between Indiana and Tweety and it was my individual bonds with everybody left in the game that allowed me to manipulate the vote my way with Marceline’s help of convincing the boys to vote the way we wanted to or convince Tweety to vote the way we wanted to.


  • I do feel like without me protecting her once all of her allies were voted out, Tweety wouldn’t have lasted as long as she did


  • As far as Indiana, I do feel like he did ride my coattails a little bit because while he was in on the plan, he never really dictated any of the votes because I had Marceline backing me up in Fangs, Bangs, and Wangs


  • Only 1 (random) vote was cast against me during the entirety of this game which is a testament to how connected and protected I was throughout the game


  • I won 2 important immunities challenges. The one before my idol expired so I could have it to use the next round, and the final 4, to take out the person that I thought was the biggest threat in the game when it came to the jury


I’ve got to be honest, after busting my ass for the past almost 2 days to try and make sure that I won the final immunity challenge so I could take out the person who I thought was the biggest threat when it came to the jury, I am exhausted! I am sure nobody expected tonight to go the way it did, but it’s part of the game, and the show must go on. If you’ve made it this far, I seriously appreciate you for even just taking the time to read my speech. 

I am ready and willing to answer any and all of your questions in the morning! Final Tribal Council MFtBQo5xT1N0TYfzcqcLxRbY0F_fgosOIheRy0F4yAfJdaDPKYPYt0D3DhXfYyvsontR6ZLtIaOK9c4jNjrU2r0lDwbPMaKk7ZihAaImOIR0ff2fWY6mjqIGnEw5lrlSSGmTkm9e


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PostSubject: Re: Final Tribal Council   Final Tribal Council I_icon_minitimeSat 13 Mar - 5:07:50

I don’t want to make this really long, so I’m just going to tell you some highlights I think would be important to know about my game.

Remember on day 1 when they asked us “What is your strategy coming into this season?” My answer was “I want to be someone people see as valuable”

I came into this game wanting to focus on the social aspect of everything first and foremost because when people see you as someone valuable to their game, they will want to keep you around REGARDLESS of any “sides” or “politics” of the game, and I feel like I was able to accomplish this through the relationships I developed while in the game. I feel like my journey through BBQ season 1 has been an a true survival story, there were times in which I was clearly at the bottom, but I was able to adapt and maneuver out of them – because I had done everything I could to make people see ME and valuable to THEIR game. I will admit that premerge did seem pretty quiet for me because I barely went to any tribals and found it to be too messy to get in the middle of tribals that I was not attending, BUT I did use this time to develop relationships with a majority of the cast. I was doing my best to develop strong connections with everyone – and premerge was when I warned Wendy that Spongebob had been saying her name, and I gave her this information in order to have her trusting me, because I needed to do small acts here and there with people to develop trust and make people see me as someone that they want to stick around.

Once merge hit, the game took off for me in the fact that my number one ally went home first tribal, and I had no idea that was going to happen. This kicked me into gear and made me realize I need to do something fast, because there is clearly a large sum of people all voting together, probably based off of premerge voting blocks. I started talking to people, trying to get to the bottom of who was running the majority – however, the person I had the least connection with at that point was Jack. (sorry here Jack, much respect, all love just game) – After Lindsey went home, I started telling people that I think it must be Jack running that side. I mentioned to multiple people that Jack must be socially at the top because I never heard people talking about him and they were likely protecting him. Regardless of whether or not Jack was the top dog of the other side, it was in my best interest for him to go soon because I knew he had strong connections to people that were not me. When Lucifer and Lafayette flipped over to vote out Beth, that was simply due to her having the double vote power and the fact she was clearly tight with people that did not have my best interest. I don't find it necessary to go into extreme detail that happened every week, bottom line was that I was always putting in work to not be in immediate danger every week

I was always doing everything that I could to survive to the next round each tribal, and this often meant downplaying myself in speeches and making myself not seem like much of a threat at all. A resume is not based on voting correctly each round (especially when the only reason that has happened is because of a rock draw), a resume is built based on what have done to survive. At final 5, I thought for sure I would be picked off...I knew it was likely that Lucifer would not get the jury votes but I needed to act like I was sure of it, to increase the possibility of me staying -- and since I had been painted as a huge jury threat, I was still able to survive that round and was 9 points off from winning final immunity which I'm fairly certain I would have won if it weren't for the fact that I worked yesterday and had to take multiple hours out of spamming in order to do work which could have easily gotten me 10 extra points

Something I would like to point out is that luck had a huge part in all of our games here in the final 3 – most specifically when it came to that rock draw round. Wendy & Indy needed that to go in their favor to get here to the end. That rock draw did not go in my favor, and I made it here regardless (yes, I know I did get lucky with what had happened at the final 4 tribal but I WAS very close to winning that immunity myself and not being in that situation). My point is, I do believe there is an element in luck for all of us, but I think the fact I was able to make it here to the end after become someone that was “in the minority” shows that I was able to adapt to the unlucky circumstances that sometimes came my way.


If you would like more explanations of things or have any specific questions please ask!


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PostSubject: Re: Final Tribal Council   Final Tribal Council I_icon_minitimeSat 13 Mar - 5:23:30

Also not sure if I’m allowed to comment on my peers posts, but Peppa activated the flash round...

Also I was using my shield power on Lucifer regardless of anything Wendy told me. I made that decision with Gale, Lafayette, Peppa, and Cara almost immediately after he lost immunity because we weren’t going to risk him staying due to an idol. That round was very interesting in that I wanted more than anything to be safe and I was worried it was me, I wanted the idol played on me but of course I did feel guilt about the end result being the individual who used their idol on me ended up getting rocked out. I was forever thankful to Cara for this and was going to do everything I could to not make that decision a waste. <3

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PostSubject: Re: Final Tribal Council   Final Tribal Council I_icon_minitimeSat 13 Mar - 5:44:45

Tweety Bird wrote:
Also not sure if I’m allowed to comment on my peers posts, but Peppa activated the flash round...

Also I was using my shield power on Lucifer regardless of anything Wendy told me. I made that decision with Gale, Lafayette, Peppa, and Cara almost immediately after he lost immunity because we weren’t going to risk him staying due to an idol. That round was very interesting in that I wanted more than anything to be safe and I was worried it was me, I wanted the idol played on me but of course I did feel guilt about the end result being the individual who used their idol on me ended up getting rocked out. I was forever thankful to Cara for this and was going to do everything I could to not make that decision a waste. <3

Would you or would you have not gone to rocks had you not been safe that round?
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PostSubject: Re: Final Tribal Council   Final Tribal Council I_icon_minitimeSat 13 Mar - 5:53:57

That round I would have gone to rocks because the odds weren’t all that awful and I needed the people voting with me to have a chance at having the numbers, of course the added security of me having an idol on me made me feel more secure to make it tie again though there is no denying that. Part of me telling you specifically that I wouldn’t go to rocks for Peppa was to downplay my connection with her in anyway

The round after when the odds were 1/4s me or 3/4s one of the people on my side anyway I wasn’t very willing even though it sucked to lose Lafayette too.
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PostSubject: Re: Final Tribal Council   Final Tribal Council I_icon_minitimeSat 13 Mar - 5:56:45

Tweety Bird wrote:
That round I would have gone to rocks because the odds weren’t all that awful and I needed the people voting with me to have a chance at having the numbers, of course the added security of me having an idol on me made me feel more secure to make it tie again though there is no denying that. Part of me telling you specifically that I wouldn’t go to rocks for Peppa was to downplay my connection with her in anyway

The round after when the odds were 1/4s me or 3/4s one of the people on my side anyway I wasn’t very willing even though it sucked to lose Lafayette too.

Now why you lying, sis? You said you were never the type of player to go rocks, ever.
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PostSubject: Re: Final Tribal Council   Final Tribal Council I_icon_minitimeSat 13 Mar - 5:56:59

Okay so great speeches everybody! I’m super impressed, and congratulations to each of you for making it this far.

A few notes:

Indiana: The Coalition did not call the Flash Round. Peppa did. Can you explain this comment a little more? It’s confused me.

Also, Wendy has owned her decision to lie to Peppa and I about the Peppa vote off and explained it perfectly, pointing out the reasons why. You just say you regret it. So, WHY did you lie?

Wendy: why didn’t you and I ever actually work together?! You boast of these incredible bonds and being the glue so just WHY couldn’t we get our shit together and become a dominant force?

Also, why should I consider voting for you over one of my closest allies in this game Tweety, who has been the underdog since Peppa and I left and gave you numbers?

Tweety, my lil’ yellow. I love you, but I fear your speech isn’t going to light a fire under the butts of the rest of the Jury when compared to Indy’s and Wendy’s. Make them feel how we feel about you. Why should those who worked on the other side of the house lend you their votes to win?

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PostSubject: Re: Final Tribal Council   Final Tribal Council I_icon_minitimeSat 13 Mar - 6:16:18

First of all, there are a lot of inconsistencies in the speeches of my peers. The fact theirs is long and over detailed doesnt mean it’s accurate or true to what happened in this game. I don’t get how Indy is argument he was pulling any strings/in charge when he also says he thinks he would have gone home if it weren’t for an immunity win. That doesn’t really add up. Also with Wendy, I saw her game for a long time but I needed her to think that I didn’t and that I trusted her completely in order for her to possibly see me as less threatening.

As for the people who didn’t work with me as closely let me address some of you directly — Beth — there was a long time in the beginning of the game when you and I were added to the same alliances and same chats and I feel like we saw each other a little bit there and I could tell you were trying to play the middle. I wanted you to trust me and believe that I wouldn’t betray you because there were things you knew about me that you could use against me and betray me as well however I was able to read the fact that you were obviously much much closer to Indiana Wendy and Jack than you tried to make people appear. I continued to maneuver the game the best that I could as someone that people thought they could have as their secret ally or someone on the side from their main thing — I expected everyone to have alliances but I wanted people to feel like I was someone they should protect and I feel like this was partly something you were trying to do as well.

Jack — I’m not sure exactly why we never connected on an alliance level, I did try to form that bond with you to make something deeper but it didn’t really go anywhere and I could see you as someone well protected and with a lot of allies so I didn’t think you would need me anyway. I saw your game and was the first person to plant a seed about you, which I hope is something you don’t hate me for but I felt like it needed to be done in order for me to make it here

While after a couple of rounds it was established that I was not with the “OG DC” side of the game, I also was in a position to not be the main target - Even after I had performed well in tribal immunities and individual immunities and I think it’s because of the social connections i was able to develop with people on the other side that made me appear more flexible than others and less threatening

My name was never written down to go until final 5 by Lucifer when it was me vs him and then at final 4 when the others were convinced I was too big of a jury threat - they waited until the last minute to try and take me out even though they had these concerns before and I think that my consistent attempts to paint Lucifer as someone who would win this game if he got to the end had a part in that.

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PostSubject: Re: Final Tribal Council   Final Tribal Council I_icon_minitimeSat 13 Mar - 6:17:25

Wendy Christensen wrote:
Tweety Bird wrote:
That round I would have gone to rocks because the odds weren’t all that awful and I needed the people voting with me to have a chance at having the numbers, of course the added security of me having an idol on me made me feel more secure to make it tie again though there is no denying that. Part of me telling you specifically that I wouldn’t go to rocks for Peppa was to downplay my connection with her in anyway

The round after when the odds were 1/4s me or 3/4s one of the people on my side anyway I wasn’t very willing even though it sucked to lose Lafayette too.

Now why you lying, sis? You said you were never the type of player to go rocks, ever.


I literally explained it in my answer? I was downplaying how close I was to that side to you all the time I wanted to appear flexible and make you think I would pick you over them lmao

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PostSubject: Re: Final Tribal Council   Final Tribal Council I_icon_minitimeSat 13 Mar - 6:24:39

Also not to beat a dead horse cuz I know that I already said this but the rock draw was a big determining factor in how this game turned out and neither of them are really acknowledging what they think would have happened to their game if the rock draw did not actually go in their favor. If it didn’t go in their favor they would have been picked off, but it didn’t so of course they were able to be on the right side of the vote later. I don’t think that’s a good selling point for why they should win. My side lost the rock draw and I still made it here, I was even not voted out before Lucifer — when they went to rocks for him a few rounds ago — why?? Because I was able to downplay myself well enough, appear like I wasn’t likely to win final immunity (which again, I almost did) and I was consistent with my pitch against Lucifer which made him out to be a jury threat
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PostSubject: Re: Final Tribal Council   Final Tribal Council I_icon_minitimeSat 13 Mar - 6:32:12

Wendy Christensen wrote:
Tweety Bird wrote:
That round I would have gone to rocks because the odds weren’t all that awful and I needed the people voting with me to have a chance at having the numbers, of course the added security of me having an idol on me made me feel more secure to make it tie again though there is no denying that. Part of me telling you specifically that I wouldn’t go to rocks for Peppa was to downplay my connection with her in anyway

The round after when the odds were 1/4s me or 3/4s one of the people on my side anyway I wasn’t very willing even though it sucked to lose Lafayette too.

Now why you lying, sis? You said you were never the type of player to go rocks, ever.

Don't be so hard on Tweety. I also said a lot of things that I never meant to keep myself in the game.

My question for Indy and Wendy is this. Everyone lied in this game - hell, the only person to ever get ny full truth was Beth - and everyone seemed to get over that all pretty easily in jury. However, many people were still very angry about the way you two lied to them. Where did you go wrong in that aspect of your jury management, as most people felt the lying to be more personal that game related.

Tweety, this one is for you. And, FYI. Don't knock yourself on your speech. It is a good speech. My question is, name your most risky move in the game. One you made just for you without the input of others.

Good job, you 3!! Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Final Tribal Council   Final Tribal Council I_icon_minitimeSat 13 Mar - 6:33:55

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Okay so great speeches everybody! I’m super impressed, and congratulations to each of you for making it this far.

A few notes:

Indiana: The Coalition did not call the Flash Round. Peppa did. Can you explain this comment a little more? It’s confused me.

Also, Wendy has owned her decision to lie to Peppa and I about the Peppa vote off and explained it perfectly, pointing out the reasons why. You just say you regret it. So, WHY did you lie?

Wendy: why didn’t you and I ever actually work together?! You boast of these incredible bonds and being the glue so just WHY couldn’t we get our shit together and become a dominant force?

Also, why should I consider voting for you over one of my closest allies in this game Tweety, who has been the underdog since Peppa and I left and gave you numbers?

Tweety, my lil’ yellow. I love you, but I fear your speech isn’t going to light a fire under the butts of the rest of the Jury when compared to Indy’s and Wendy’s. Make them feel how we feel about you. Why should those who worked on the other side of the house lend you their votes to win?

I would just like to point out that Indiana not knowing the Flash Round was initiated by Peppa goes to show that he wasn’t as “in the know” as people made him seem to be, or how he wants to come across as. Lol

Gale, to be honest, I’m truly not sure why we weren’t able to trust each other and work together. I feel as though we were both just too damn stubborn to let our guard down with one another and allow the other person to have more control/say. That’s why I felt threatened by you because you reminded me of myself with what you showed you were capable of doing. The reason why I wanted to make that Final 3 with you and Indiana was because I was ready to work together instead of against each other because, girl, you stressed me the hell out because you were good af at what you did!

I believe that you should vote for me over Tweety because out of the 3 of us here, I had direct impact with how the latter half of this game transpired all the while being able to stay under the radar and have nobody take a shot at me. As soon as Lafayette left, I pretty much knew that I was locked in for the final 3 because I was working with every single player left, even if it was temporary. Every single round from then on, every person’s name was thrown out and considered and my name was never mentioned as a possibility, and if it was, it never got enough traction to actually go through with it, which is a testament to the connections I built with everyone.

When you and Peppa left, Tweety really only had me as a solid, solid bond. It was through me that Tweety was able to form a bond with Marceline and Indiana because I kept telling her that they genuinely liked her. Had it not been for me and Marceline, Tweety would have gone the round that Lindsey got voted out, or would have been the votes the first 2 time’s that our side voted for Peppa because Jack, Lucifer, and Indiana wanted to target her, which was another reason why I had to be okay with Lindsey getting voted out, because I was closer to Tweety and wanted to save her.

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PostSubject: Re: Final Tribal Council   Final Tribal Council I_icon_minitimeSat 13 Mar - 6:39:40

Tweety Bird wrote:
Also not to beat a dead horse cuz I know that I already said this but the rock draw was a big determining factor in how this game turned out and neither of them are really acknowledging what they think would have happened to their game if the rock draw did not actually go in their favor. If it didn’t go in their favor they would have been picked off, but it didn’t so of course they were able to be on the right side of the vote later. I don’t think that’s a good selling point for why they should win. My side lost the rock draw and I still made it here, I was even not voted out before Lucifer — when they went to rocks for him a few rounds ago — why?? Because I was able to downplay myself well enough, appear like I wasn’t likely to win final immunity (which again, I almost did) and I was consistent with my pitch against Lucifer which made him out to be a jury threat

The only thing is that even if we lost that rock draw and were picked off, I would still have been the last person to get picked off and it was clear because you all have thrown votes to Marceline, Lucifer, and Indiana, but never me because of my connection to Cara.
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PostSubject: Re: Final Tribal Council   Final Tribal Council I_icon_minitimeSat 13 Mar - 6:50:30

That’s exactly my point about how I wanted people to see me as valuable to their game to keep me around and protect me with their other alliances. I also had Lucifer tell me that after round one and he let me knew he threw out another name in order to protect me and make sure I stay which I think goes to show that I was able to form bonds with people in the way that I intended so that I was pretty well protected.

Not coming after Wendy after Lafayette left was a way of protecting myself. I was throwing out Lucifer and Indiana’s names as threats because I knew the odds were better at me trying to get one of them out than it would have been trying to get them to vote out her, plus if I wanted her to see me as someone that she could drag along to the end I needed to not form things against her. Any time I talked to Lucifer about things he would run it to other people so I wasn’t going to try and ruin the image I had tried to build with Wendy by trying to turn against her and bringing in Lucifer because I knew he would just use anything I would say against me.

And Wendy even if you were to have been the last one picked off, I’ve shown that I was as well. And we both used each other to get to this point but I would argue the only reason you had more “influence” (so to speak) is because of the rock draw situation going in a way that benefitted you and not me. Even with that happening I managed to not get a single vote until final 5 when I was basically all alone
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PostSubject: Re: Final Tribal Council   Final Tribal Council I_icon_minitimeSat 13 Mar - 6:56:54

Jack Black wrote:
Wendy Christensen wrote:
Tweety Bird wrote:
That round I would have gone to rocks because the odds weren’t all that awful and I needed the people voting with me to have a chance at having the numbers, of course the added security of me having an idol on me made me feel more secure to make it tie again though there is no denying that. Part of me telling you specifically that I wouldn’t go to rocks for Peppa was to downplay my connection with her in anyway

The round after when the odds were 1/4s me or 3/4s one of the people on my side anyway I wasn’t very willing even though it sucked to lose Lafayette too.

Now why you lying, sis? You said you were never the type of player to go rocks, ever.

Don't be so hard on Tweety.  I also said a lot of things that I never meant to keep myself in the game.

My question for Indy and Wendy is this.  Everyone lied in this game - hell, the only person to ever get ny full truth was Beth - and everyone seemed to get over that all pretty easily in jury. However, many people were still very angry about the way you two lied to them.  Where did you go wrong in that aspect of your jury management, as most people felt the lying to be more personal that game related.

Tweety, this one is for you. And, FYI. Don't knock yourself on your speech. It is a good speech.  My question is, name your most risky move in the game. One you made just for you without the input of others.

Good job, you 3!!  Smile

I’ve mentioned this in other posts but I think the biggest risk I took in this game was throwing your name out. I had my eyes on you since premerge and I could sense you were a great social and strategic player but I was too scared to say anything for a long time, especially because nobody else was saying it. I took a big risk by telling people that I think you are running the game, I thought by doing this I’m either digging myself in a huge hole or I’m doing something that can change the game for myself.

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PostSubject: Re: Final Tribal Council   Final Tribal Council I_icon_minitimeSat 13 Mar - 7:08:04

Thank you both for your honesty. I'm looking forward to hearing from Indy.

I think everybody here needs to put some respect on the Jury's name. I don't think a single person will genuinely allow the bitterness that we felt allow us to give the win to someone we genuinely don't think deserves it from a game perspective. We all played this game alongside you and I know my vote for certain isn't cemented.

My final question: Do you think you have my vote and why?

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PostSubject: Re: Final Tribal Council   Final Tribal Council I_icon_minitimeSat 13 Mar - 7:13:42

Jack Black wrote:
Wendy Christensen wrote:
Tweety Bird wrote:
That round I would have gone to rocks because the odds weren’t all that awful and I needed the people voting with me to have a chance at having the numbers, of course the added security of me having an idol on me made me feel more secure to make it tie again though there is no denying that. Part of me telling you specifically that I wouldn’t go to rocks for Peppa was to downplay my connection with her in anyway

The round after when the odds were 1/4s me or 3/4s one of the people on my side anyway I wasn’t very willing even though it sucked to lose Lafayette too.

Now why you lying, sis? You said you were never the type of player to go rocks, ever.

Don't be so hard on Tweety.  I also said a lot of things that I never meant to keep myself in the game.

My question for Indy and Wendy is this.  Everyone lied in this game - hell, the only person to ever get ny full truth was Beth - and everyone seemed to get over that all pretty easily in jury. However, many people were still very angry about the way you two lied to them.  Where did you go wrong in that aspect of your jury management, as most people felt the lying to be more personal that game related.

Tweety, this one is for you. And, FYI. Don't knock yourself on your speech. It is a good speech.  My question is, name your most risky move in the game. One you made just for you without the input of others.

Good job, you 3!!  Smile

My biggest thing was that I knew in order for me to be able to take control of the numbers, I needed people like Lafayette, Gale, and Peppa who were not on my side to get voted out. I knew who was I going up against when it came to Gale and Peppa because they were persuasive as hell, and could easily get into people’s heads so I had to lie to them until they were voted out so they didn’t get the chance to really campaign to get themselves out of the situation.

With Lindsey, if I remember correctly, you all wanted to vote for Tweety the round she went out, but I told you guys that Tweety was good and wanted to stick DC strong. Then that’s when you all said Lindsey’s name and after having just protected Tweety, I didn’t want to say no again to the name you all threw out because then in my mind, you guys would think who the hell was I actually loyal to?!

I know that people thought it became personal when I would still pretend to either be working with and/or voting with them when I was just going to vote them out. The reason why I felt this was necessary was because I was afraid that another flip would happen and put me back in the minority and the best way to prevent that from happening was by making people feel comfortable. You out of all people know that trusting Lucifer was always a risk and I was afraid that if I ever told anybody that I was nervous as hell a about where Lucifer’s vote would go, they could easily use that against me to flip him to their side.

& I know in game mode that it sometimes comes across like I have no emotion or any remorse for any lying or backstabbing I did, but I promise that isn’t the case. but truthfully, it was all in order to put myself at an advantage in the game. After being forced into a minority by Lucifer, I felt like I really had no other choice but to play a more cutthroat, aggressive game if I wanted to survive and make it to the end.

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PostSubject: Re: Final Tribal Council   Final Tribal Council I_icon_minitimeSat 13 Mar - 7:16:17

Gale Weathers wrote:
Thank you both for your honesty. I'm looking forward to hearing from Indy.

I think everybody here needs to put some respect on the Jury's name. I don't think a single person will genuinely allow the bitterness that we felt allow us to give the win to someone we genuinely don't think deserves it from a game perspective. We all played this game alongside you and I know my vote for certain isn't cemented.

My final question: Do you think you have my vote and why?

I think I do and I don’t think it’s fair for it to be said that I would only get votes because people are bitter toward others. I think I have played the best game and demonstrated that I did what I set out to do from the very beginning - developed social relationships that protected me all season long. I’ve demonstrated that I planted seeds to get targets I wanted out, and was able to adapt and survive multiple situations thrown at me that didn’t make getting here easy at all. At times when it felt obvious I would go next I found a way out of it (and I didn’t mention this before but voting Marceline at f4 was also strategic since I noticed she wasn’t on as much and I was hoping for the fact that maybe she would miss the voting deadline). I did everything it takes to get here and think I’ve been able to demonstrate that I wasn’t just strung along, but played a well rounded game

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